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man, my life might've been different if this post had existed in 2018. thank you very much for writing this! the two of you very precisely answered a question that's been haunting me for years

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Glad it was useful!

I'm curious what the question was (but I realize you might prefer not to say).

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basically "how could someone even in principle be a spiritual teacher without becoming a cult leader," where by "becoming a cult leader" i mean various things but particularly using charisma to dominate people. this was not something i saw anybody seriously worry about until i started using twitter but it was, uh, something i ran into personally, on both the giving and receiving ends, and was quite terrified of (both giving and receiving) for a long time. it's a relief to see someone just lay out the problems with it and firmly state that it's not necessary. it really does make things more boring and people less creative!

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Ah, very interesting! Would you be OK with my restacking this, or would you prefer that it remain buried in the comment thread?

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no worries at all, public things are public!

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Thanks for the transcript (good idea!), and from scanning I’m now listening

Very interesting to hear Charlie’s perspective on the developing student:teacher/student:student dynamics and ways to avoid pitfalls, and likewise how they’re thinking a bit about transmission. Helpful perspectives to reflect on I think.

I know someone who is currently stepping into a new/more central teaching role, so this all feels pertinent in my community also.

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I love the prompt „what is there to learn?“

makes all the difference!

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