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mtraven's avatar

I'm down with this! Two points though:

Mythicallity can be an explicit mode, set off by as-if markers. But I think it's also a kind of pervasive thing, that is, we are always telling stories about ourselves in the course of mundane activity, and those stories have roots in myth, taken broadly. This is the opposite of Galen Strawson, call it "pervasive narrativity".

You actually say pretty much exactly this, so I'm not disagreeing with anything (hard to believe I know). So what is my point? Not sure, maybe that myth is present to us in two different ways – explicitly and implicitly – and I'd like to understand the relationship better. (Also reminded that this is sort of the meta-theme of Joyce's Ulysses).

Two: there is a dark side of myth that is evident in politics and war. Politics runs on mythicallity more than most human activity; and those myths often involve conflict, enmity, and violence. Nationalisms are weaponized myths. Fascism also runs on mythologies, but its really a human universal. Myths are weapons of war, perhaps the most important ones, the motivating forces.

The suppression of myth in modernity, its replacement with more rational or utilitarian values – everybody hates that, but perhaps those old stories were stuffed into a box for good reason, they are dangerous as hell. Of course, they don't stay suppressed – Pandora always opens the box. Speaking of myths.

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Ari Nielsen's avatar

Would love if you should analyze the Mythopoetic Men's Movement from this perspective; as a vanished gathering that I enjoyed in times past, would be interested how you sort out (to the best of your memory), when it hit the nail on the head or went astray.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoetic_men%27s_movement

Related: Criticisms and laudations you might have for the generation of Joseph Campbell, Jean Houston, Michael Meade, Huston Smith, Thomas Moore, Marion Woodman, James Hillman, and Robert Bly.

Once again as a more abstract question:

You say: "Depth psychology, particularly the work of Carl Jung, dominates popular conceptual understanding of the mode. Although that’s valuable, it’s also distorting. Thinking and feeling are aspects of all the modes, but so are perception and action—and they are at least as important."

In so far as some neo-Jungians DO emphasize perception and action...would love to hear more precise critique.

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